Robeco logo

Important information

The Robeco Capital Growth Funds have not been registered under the United States Investment Company Act of 1940, as amended, nor or the United States Securities Act of 1933, as amended. None of the shares may be offered or sold, directly or indirectly in the United States or to any U.S. Person (within the meaning of Regulation S promulgated under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the “Securities Act”)). Furthermore, Robeco Institutional Asset Management B.V. (Robeco) does not provide investment advisory services, or hold itself out as providing investment advisory services, in the United States or to any U.S. Person (within the meaning of Regulation S promulgated under the Securities Act).

This website is intended for use only by non-U.S. Persons outside of the United States (within the meaning of Regulation S promulgated under the Securities Act who are professional investors, or professional fiduciaries representing such non-U.S. Person investors. By clicking “I Agree” on our website disclaimer and accessing the information on this website, including any subdomain thereof, you are certifying and agreeing to the following: (i) you have read, understood and agree to this disclaimer, (ii) you have informed yourself of any applicable legal restrictions and represent that by accessing the information contained on this website, you are not in violation of, and will not be causing Robeco or any of its affiliated entities or issuers to violate, any applicable laws and, as a result, you are legally authorized to access such information on behalf of yourself and any underlying investment advisory client, (iii) you understand and acknowledge that certain information presented herein relates to securities that have not been registered under the Securities Act, and may be offered or sold only outside the United States and only to, or for the account or benefit of, non-U.S. Persons (within the meaning of Regulation S under the Securities Act), (iv) you are, or are a discretionary investment adviser representing, a non-U.S. Person (within the meaning of Regulation S under the Securities Act) located outside of the United States and (v) you are, or are a discretionary investment adviser representing, a professional non-retail investor. Access to this website has been limited so that it shall not constitute directed selling efforts (as defined in Regulation S under the Securities Act) in the United States and so that it shall not be deemed to constitute Robeco holding itself out generally to the public in the U.S. as an investment adviser. Nothing contained herein constitutes an offer to sell securities or solicitation of an offer to purchase any securities in any jurisdiction. We reserve the right to deny access to any visitor, including, but not limited to, those visitors with IP addresses residing in the United States.

This website has been carefully prepared by Robeco. The information contained in this publication is based upon sources of information believed to be reliable. Robeco is not answerable for the accuracy or completeness of the facts, opinions, expectations and results referred to therein. Whilst every care has been taken in the preparation of this website, we do not accept any responsibility for damage of any kind resulting from incorrect or incomplete information. This website is subject to change without notice. The value of the investments may fluctuate. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. If the currency in which the past performance is displayed differs from the currency of the country in which you reside, then you should be aware that due to exchange rate fluctuations the performance shown may increase or decrease if converted into your local currency. For investment professional use only. Not for use by the general public.

I Disagree

09-27-2023 · Quarterly outlook

Credit outlook: This time is NOT different

Consensus views in the market have changed from a high likelihood of a recession to a most likely soft landing, at least in the US.

Download the publication


    Authors

  • Sander Bus - CIO High Yield, Portfolio Manager

    Sander Bus

    CIO High Yield, Portfolio Manager

Summary

  1. Markets seem to have fully embraced a soft landing

  2. Monetary policy lags are longer

  3. Position for decompression and quality carry

Today, cautious positioning has moved to a net-long and many sell-side strategists have lowered their end-of-year spread forecasts. We argue that this is precisely the time to remain cautious. Economic laws have always applied, and this time should be no different. Investors should be wary when people claim the opposite. Historically, significant monetary tightening cycles have always resulted in a recession, only the time lag has differed. And this has been the sharpest rate rise in decades.

We do not have a crystal ball, however, in our assessment we believe that markets are currently too sanguine and complacent. The factors that caused the lag in monetary policy transmission have now largely played out. The savings reservoir is almost depleted, fiscal stimulus has reached its peak and the recovery of the services sector is complete.

Higher interest rates will soon start to bite the lower-rated companies, probably resulting in decompression between investment grade and high yield. Once central banks are finished hiking rates and rate volatility decreases, investment grade markets may well prove to be an attractive asset class compared to more risky assets.

Fundamentals

We continue to hold the view that economic laws apply and that this hiking cycle will have similar consequences to those in the past. The only difference is that the policy lag is a bit longer. The longer lag can be explained by the imbalance that the world had to cope with after Covid: a high savings reservoir, catch up demand for services and large order backlogs in for example the auto sector. Additionally, fiscal support, especially in the US, has supported growth and employment. So, why do we think that the market is too complacent about the prospects of a soft landing? We believe the previously mentioned effects seem to have run their course.

Why do we think that the market is too complacent about the prospects of a soft landing?

Firstly, the US has benefited from outsized fiscal stimulus, however, from now on the fiscal impulse will be negative. Secondly, there is no additional upside from a further recovery in the services sector, and the service PMI’s dipping below 50 also indicates this. Thirdly, the consumer has depleted their excess savings and the very high perceived job security can only come down from this point. In other words, it is difficult to see continued strength in consumer spending, making it harder for companies to pass on input cost inflation moving forward.

To be clear, by no means does this suggest we expect a deep recession. We have not seen an overinvestment cycle; hence, we do not expect a decline in capex, which is usually symptomatic of deep recessions. Yet, we could see some collateral damage down the road, similar to what we witnessed in March this year during the US regional banking crisis.

Valuations

Risk-free rates continued to move higher during the quarter, while credit spreads held in well or even tightened. Year to date, in high yield we saw compression across ratings with lower rated credit outperforming higher ratings. This reflects recession risk being priced out. We expect credit markets to start decompressing in the coming months as we believe that the market is currently underpricing the risk of a recession. We favor quality carry positions that still look attractive on a historical basis, and we would rather keep clear of the riskiest section of the markets that trade rich by historical measures.

What’s new in credits?

Stay ahead with our newsletter on the latest in credit investing.

Discover credits

Technicals

Whilst technicals remain tough there are some positive indicators that suggest opportunities for investment grade bonds, as discussed in our recent webinar. With the end of the hiking cycle now in sight we are likely to see a period with lower rate volatility. A decrease in volatility paves the way for carry trades and investment grade would be the beneficiary. This environment also creates prospects for lower government bond yields which will benefit the total returns of investment grade. However, for high yield this leads to a different scenario, as high yield tends to underperform in a falling rate environment, usually coinciding with a weaker economy and rising defaults.

It would have been nothing short of a miracle if monetary policy makers would have been able to set rates exactly right and engineer a soft landing

It would have been nothing short of a miracle if monetary policy makers would have been able to set rates exactly right and engineer a soft landing, thus avoiding inflation and maintaining positive economic growth. There are simply too many uncertainties around the lags in monetary policy transmission for this to happen. With inflation materially above target levels, it is likely that central banks will err on the side of caution. This means with hindsight, we can probably conclude that central banks left rates too high for too long, however, given the uncertainty of today, their response makes all the sense in the world. In today’s credit markets the risk of a recession is probably higher than the market discounts for.

Conclusion

Many market participants seem to have embraced the soft-landing scenario and given up on their recession forecast. We believe this change in view was mainly triggered by markets that did not react in the way that was previously anticipated. Yes, a cautious position was painful this year, especially in high yield, but that is not reason enough for us to diverge from our view. With market positioning having turned more bullish, we think this is all the more reason to remain cautious on the riskiest part of credit markets and favor the higher-quality aspects of the market. Investment grade companies can probably fare reasonably well in this environment if the recession isn’t too deep.

Download the publication

loader
Robeco

Robeco aims to enable its clients to achieve their financial and sustainability goals by providing superior investment returns and solutions.

Important information
The Robeco Capital Growth Funds have not been registered under the United States Investment Company Act of 1940, as amended, nor or the United States Securities Act of 1933, as amended. None of the shares may be offered or sold, directly or indirectly in the United States or to any U.S. Person (within the meaning of Regulation S promulgated under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the “Securities Act”)). Furthermore, Robeco Institutional Asset Management B.V. (Robeco) does not provide investment advisory services, or hold itself out as providing investment advisory services, in the United States or to any U.S. Person (within the meaning of Regulation S promulgated under the Securities Act).
This website is intended for use only by non-U.S. Persons outside of the United States (within the meaning of Regulation S promulgated under the Securities Act who are professional investors, or professional fiduciaries representing such non-U.S. Person investors. By clicking “I Agree” on our website disclaimer and accessing the information on this website, including any subdomain thereof, you are certifying and agreeing to the following: (i) you have read, understood and agree to this disclaimer, (ii) you have informed yourself of any applicable legal restrictions and represent that by accessing the information contained on this website, you are not in violation of, and will not be causing Robeco or any of its affiliated entities or issuers to violate, any applicable laws and, as a result, you are legally authorized to access such information on behalf of yourself and any underlying investment advisory client, (iii) you understand and acknowledge that certain information presented herein relates to securities that have not been registered under the Securities Act, and may be offered or sold only outside the United States and only to, or for the account or benefit of, non-U.S. Persons (within the meaning of Regulation S under the Securities Act), (iv) you are, or are a discretionary investment adviser representing, a non-U.S. Person (within the meaning of Regulation S under the Securities Act) located outside of the United States and (v) you are, or are a discretionary investment adviser representing, a professional non-retail investor.


Access to this website has been limited so that it shall not constitute directed selling efforts (as defined in Regulation S under the Securities Act) in the United States and so that it shall not be deemed to constitute Robeco holding itself out generally to the public in the U.S. as an investment adviser. Nothing contained herein constitutes an offer to sell securities or solicitation of an offer to purchase any securities in any jurisdiction. We reserve the right to deny access to any visitor, including, but not limited to, those visitors with IP addresses residing in the United States. This website has been carefully prepared by Robeco. The information contained in this publication is based upon sources of information believed to be reliable. Robeco is not answerable for the accuracy or completeness of the facts, opinions, expectations and results referred to therein. Whilst every care has been taken in the preparation of this website, we do not accept any responsibility for damage of any kind resulting from incorrect or incomplete information. This website is subject to change without notice. The value of the investments may fluctuate. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. If the currency in which the past performance is displayed differs from the currency of the country in which you reside, then you should be aware that due to exchange rate fluctuations the performance shown may increase or decrease if converted into your local currency. For investment professional use only. Not for use by the general public.